Want to be a National Geographic Producer?

This is a lovely producer I worked with at National Geographic. Listen to him talking about standing out. He’s so wonderful. On our shark trip, he got hepatitis C. That was a total bummer, love the guy. But he’s ok now!

https://prmaven.com/podcast/episode-42-john-francis-retired-vice-president-for-research-conservation-and-exploration-at-national-geographic/

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